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Loping--Getting the horse to do it

Last post 07-27-2008 7:24 PM by OnAprylsWings. 9 replies.
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  • 07-26-2008 8:26 AM

    Loping--Getting the horse to do it

     One of my horses, April, knows how to lope..but I just got her this year in May and Idon't know how to make her lope. She jogs just fine and she does english stuff good too...I've seen her lope but I can't get her to do it from how I know 

     

    any advice?? 

  • 07-26-2008 6:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

    Okay well lets see, how old is April?  I'll just ramble a few things off that you could possibly try a few suggestions. 

    Maybe she is not sure where her feet go with a rider on her back, with that, you could try lunging her maybe just freely in a round pen and let her lope and know she can and thats good and what you want, then after awhile she can be jogging and then make sure you kiss/cluck or whatever and praise her when she goes into the lope.

    Right now I would not worry about leads at all.  Then when you and her are ready you can get on her back and be jogging and kiss/cluck and give bery clear leg cues and really encourage her into the lope and then praise her like crazy when she gets it.

    Pretty soon she'll get the clue and pick up the lope quicker every time...it may just take a long time working with her and her understanding you and your cues.

  • 07-26-2008 7:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

    You say she does english well, so she canters nicely?  Picks it up when asked from any gait? Relaxed and collected?  Balanced? Consistent?
  • 07-27-2008 8:33 AM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

     To both posts:
    April is like 9 or so..I forget what her papers say

     

    And yes canters from any gait very well and relaxed...I just can't get her to lope 

  • 07-27-2008 9:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

    Aw okay, she canters fine. But the loping part, hmm...so you just can't get her to slow the canter to a lope?

  • 07-27-2008 11:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

    So is she collected, "on the bit" and accepting of contact english consistently?

    It's good that she consistently canters well, that's step one.

    Loping is one of the hardest things physically you can ask a western horse to do.  The amount of collection and correct carriage to lope correctly and also slow is immense.  It takes a lot of physical conditioning to get to the point that it's physically possible.  THEN we ask them to maintain all of that on a draped western rein.

    Not being able to see what the actual problem is my suggestion would be to think "english" for awhile, but with a bit of a twist.  Focus on consistent correct carriage working back to front, driving forward into your contact, with her rear well engaged and driving up under herself.  Also work on speed control and rate.  Make it so that you can get her to canter at any speed you want her too, canter fast, canter slow, canter at an average speed.  Then put the two together so that not only can you rate her canter speed, but no matter what speed she's always willingly driving forward from behind and into contact with the bit.  Then go western and work through it all again with western contact.  At first you'll have to remind her a lot, and you probably won't be able to maintain the same nice slow lope that you could english, but eventually you work up to that same nice lope without the contact or consistent reminders.

    Ask for rate changes western too.  It's ok to "canter" western.  It's better to always be able to control how fast or slow your horse is going than have a horse that thinks "I go THIS speed under a western saddle or I get in trouble".  Plus it's easier to work on the rear end engagement when you are really driving them forward into a nice canter than trying to hold back the front end (slow down) while driving the rear end forward (which is essentially the contradiction in terms that a lope becomes).
  • 07-27-2008 3:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

     Well I was working with her today..and she slows down the canter very well..I just can't get that movement...can all horses do it? I've seen her do it but maybe it was just a real slow canter..could I show like that

     

    BTW: I'm new at this whole western thing. 

  • 07-27-2008 3:33 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

    A lope IS a slow canter, her movement SHOULD look and feel as if she is cantering.  If it does not she could be in a 4 beat gait (a canter is a 3 beat gait) sometimes referred to a "troping" and you are subject to immediate disqualification in the show ring.

    A western lope should simply be a relaxed smooth "slow" canter that appears effortless (though it's not when done right as I stated in my previous post).  It should only be as slow as the individual horse can make it and still comfortably achieve smooth, forward, collected, correct movement.

    If you are new to western I STRONGLY recommend you seek out the help of a good trainer and be picky in your selection as there are still trainers out there that will teach/force a mechanical, choppy, incorrect gait into a horse and call it a lope.  That will only hurt your horse and make him miserable.

    When in doubt there is nothing wrong with showing him at an english canter in a western class.  You won't place as high as those horses that are naturally slow "lopey" horses, but you'll do much better and be much happier than if you force him into a slow mechanical gait and ruin his movement.
  • 07-27-2008 3:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

     Oh..makes so much more sense...

     

    I'm jsut a brainwashed QH show shower with a pony--watching western classes one day hoping to beat them senseless..lol 

  • 07-27-2008 7:24 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping--Getting the horse to do it

    you need to relax first off.  sit tall, half halt lightly, and slow your SEAT



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