Cost of Owning
Last post 10-01-2009 2:45 PM by bbryant5_73. 30 replies.
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09-29-2009 9:08 AM
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AnnieW128


- Joined on 06-09-2009
- Foal
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After leasing/riding for about 6-7 years now, I'm thinking about taking the leap into horse ownership. However, it's not cheap, (what else is new?!), and my income is limited. I've crunched the numbers countless times, and I think I can do it. I've talked to vets, farriers etc and gotten quotes, but I know prices always go up from what you're quoted. Anyway, here's the question: for a middle aged english horse, where can I cut costs?
I'm thinking:
$200 a month for board, (I'm in So. CA) $50 a month for feed $50 a month for farrier $100 a month for vet/vaccines/worming/etc.
Are my numbers about right??
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AnnieW128


- Joined on 06-09-2009
- Foal
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Thanks for the info. I know my numbers are okay for boarding-we don't have many "real" stables around here, so people just board at private barns. You can get a decent one for $250 that includes feed. The barns are all very close to my house, maybe 10 min, so gas isn't that big of a concern for me.
Thanks again!
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gypsy fly


- Joined on 02-17-2008
- Newberg, Oregon USA
- Under Saddle
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I imagine $200 a month is for self-care, right? What kind of arrangements do you get for the board? AM or PM feeding? Or, would you have to trade off one feeding with another boarder?
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flakemusic


- Joined on 07-01-2007
- Chicago
- Grand Champion
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What is included in that $200 board? Is it partial-care, self-care, or full? Pasture, stall, stall with turnout? Are there amenities such as an arena, trails, etc? If it's self-care, do you have to pay for bedding, hay, etc? Just to give you something to think of... my girl is boarded 40 miles west of Chicago, and this is my breakdown:
$445/month board $180/month lessons $35/ 1 1/2 months farrier $5/month deworming $100/month misc. costs (replacement things like grooming tools, tack, riding clothes, saddle fitter, etc). In all reality I probably spend more than $100/month on this stuff, but that's because I spoil Lily. :)
The vet costs are not really per month for me... I haven't had her vaccinated here, she got it in TX before she moved, so not sure on those prices yet. The equine dentist is coming soon, too, so I'm not sure about that either. She did run up a nice vet bill with a little infection that required banamine, SMZs for two weeks, and two blood tests.
Also consider that if you want to go to shows or trailer out to other trails/clinics there will be a lot of additional costs.
That being said, as long as you are educated on how much you will have to spend, and willing to sacrifice your own expenses, there are ways to make it work. I don't eat out, or shop for myself much, etc, but I am happy with it because Lily is more important to me than all of that.
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txspots


- Joined on 06-25-2008
- Central TX
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TCFarm50:I don't think you can cut costs anymore unless, you bring your horse home!
and if you do bring them home you still have to provide a place for the horse to live! (i.e. land, taxes, shelter, fencing, etc., etc., etc.) which lots of times ends up costing even more, but is worth it!
. . .and ride that pony fast like a cowboy from the past be young and wild and free like Texas in 1880. . .
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FocusCalmPatience


- Joined on 04-15-2009
- Florida
- Under Saddle
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Yeah I've lived at boarding barns and there's not really any money in it. The facilities are full time investments and jobs.
Good catch on the emergency fund- I forgot to mention insurance is always a good idea, in case there is an emergency and your horse needs major surgery or something.
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lauralite


- Joined on 01-09-2009
- Yearling
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I spend $125/month (per horse) to board. This is not a self-care price, though I choose to do daily care myself most of the time. It includes both feed and hay, though I choose to use a different feed, so I pay for that. It does not include the price of bedding, but mine are in the pasture at all times unless I have a reason to bring one in. I have one stall that I use occasionally. So, $200/month sounds reasonable to me, esp if you're in a rural area like I am. Since you've researched it, I'm guessing that your numbers for those things are pretty on-target.
I buy 2x 50# bags of feed ($12/bag) about once/month in the late fall/winter/early spring. In the late spring/summer/early fall, the same two bags of feed probably last me 2-3 months (we have really good pasture). One of my boys gets a joint supplement at $30/month and the other gets supplemental oil at $36/2.5 months. The barn is between my house and both work and school, so I spend little additional in gas expenses.
Wormer varies because I rotate and some are cheaper than others, but average to $5/horse/month. Farrier is $35/6wks/horse. Vaccines/coggins are $80/year/horse. I have teeth done yearly, at about$65-100/hores, depending on how bad it is. Obviously, I live in an area with a fairly low cost of living.
Those are the necessities. I really spend most of my money on two things: lessons
-- $200/month, plus the cost of gas to trailer there and back (an hour
away); plus all of the miscelaneous crap that I just can't help buying. Which is great, because those are things that are easy to cut back on if I run short on money or if I end up with a big vet bill.
So, I'd say that your numbers are reasonable. Depending on the type of horse you get, they might even be a little high. When I just had my paint, my summer feed costs were just about non-existant, as were my vet bills. He's a very easy keeper, and doesn't really need supplemental feed in the summer when the pasture is lush. Right now, I feed him a (very) little bit of grain when I feed my TB so they are both eating at the same time. Plus, it is a way of getting his supplement into him. The TB really needs the extra calories, but even he doesn't need that much when the pasture is growing. My barn owner laughs at how little I feed -- but I'm not going to give them more if they don't need it. It's a good idea to budget $100/month for medical expenses, but it generally won't be that much. As everyone else has said, keep the extra in a savings account for when you do need it. There are also trailer maintenence costs to keep in mind if you buy one. I found an old, small, used trailer for about $1800. Insurance is covered under the tow vehicle. I've had the wiring redone, because it went bad shortly after I bought it. Other expenses are tires, replacing cheaply-made lights on occasion, trailer mats, ties, and possibly replacing the floor at some point/repainting at some point. I also have someone look at it yearly since I don't really know what I'm looking at. Thankfully, I recently found someone who works out of his back yard and is so so so much cheaper than the trailer place. He also does a better job. If you don't buy a trailer, expect to pay someone at least $2.00/mile to take your horse anywhere.
Keep in mind that you'll likely have to spend quite a bit on tack initially. I recommend ebay; in particular, "lots" of used tack for sale (as in a big group of tack that one seller is offering as a whole). You might not need everything in that lot (or even know what it is -- I have stuff I still haven't identified), but it is a cheap way to get a basic inventory of things that are useful. If that makes any sense. I recently bought lot (this one off craigs list) mostly for the saddle pads (they're great to line dog crates when they're too beat-up to acutally use as a saddle pad), and found a soaker boot when I was going through it. I've been looking for one of those. Anyway, used tack can frequently be placed in either the washing machine or dishwasher to de-germ it. There are many things that don't need to be pretty, just functional.
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AnnieW128


- Joined on 06-09-2009
- Foal
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Thank you very much for that in depth breakdown of cost. Sadly, board isn't the cheap around here; I wish I could pay under $200!!
Lessons I didn't price up as I'm very close friends with my trainer, so she gives them to me for free. Got REALLY lucky on that one!
Ideally I'd find a 7-10 yr old gelding, barefoot, with either minimal supplements or none at all. I would do worming myself. At some point, I'd also (in a perfect world) file my horse's hooves, too. Basically, a really hardy boy that won't need much.
Whatever is left of the "emergency" $100 at the end of the month will go in the bank for future use.
Tack-wise, I've amassed a ton of grooming supplies/tack over the years, so all I really need to buy, (assuming the horse doesn't come with it), is a saddle, pad, and bridle. I'm thinking Wintec for the saddle, otherwise I'll get a used one.
Here's the kicker, though: I've run the numbers yet again, and I'll need to be able to keep the horse on $400 a month or less. Is that possible???
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AnnieW128


- Joined on 06-09-2009
- Foal
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For $200 board, I would get cleaning, feeding twice a day, (not ideal, I know), and a stall. Most stalls around here have a little turnout behind them, but we're in CA, so no lush pastures here...we have public rings nearby, along with about 75 miles of trails. Waterers are also standard.
Showing wouldn't be happening, I'm not in a position to afford that. So that also gets rid of the cost of a trailer...
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lauralite


- Joined on 01-09-2009
- Yearling
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AnnieW128:Here's the kicker, though: I've run the numbers yet again, and I'll need to be able to keep the horse on $400 a month or less. Is that possible??? You know, others will probably disagree with me, but I'd say yes. I know plenty of people that don't feed anything but pasture/hay. If your horse keeps weight on easliy, that could be enough as long as the hay is free-choice. If not, then you'll need to add in some sort of grain. Alfalfa pellets aren't very expensive, though ($8/bag here). That's what I fed my paint before I bought the TB and opted to feed them both the same thing. Honestly, I went my first 4 years of horse ownership paying a grand total of $370/3 months. $100/month for board, plus $35 every 6wks for farrier trim. I wasn't getting lessons, and I didn't supplement at all. The only added costs were the yearly vet check, occas tack, and gas to the barn. However, you're going to have to keep that budget in mind when you shop for your horse. You're going to need to look for something fairly young, preferably something that gains weight on air ;), with good feet and pretty decent conformation to limit stress/strain injuries. You may need to pay extra up front to save in the end. And make sure you don't do what I did and fall in love with a sweet TB face, because they're expensive in the upkeep dept. You also need to think about the future. Most horses will require more upkeep $ as they get older. Will you be able to afford him 5-10 years down the road? I hope that the $400 budget is a low-end budget. That is, you want to keep the expenses to under $400/month, and that is your goal/aim, but if it ends up being a little more, you can adjust and absorb it. If, on the other hand, that $400/month is an absolute limit, then I'd think twice. Not that you can't do it, but there's a good chance that you'll always be worrying about what will happen to your horse if he starts costing more or if the cost of your board or the cost of hay goes up. Make sure you have a little cushion in there.
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AnnieW128


- Joined on 06-09-2009
- Foal
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That's what gives me pause-$400 should be my low end. Great deal of thinking needed as to whether I can do that...
Thanks.
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