part of frog missing

Last post 11-30-2006 6:57 PM by BruceW. 13 replies.
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  • 11-30-2006 6:57 PM

    part of frog missing

    A friend just called and said their horse was a bit lame and sore and when they checked her hoof they noticed the frog was half missing. She asked for advice and of course I hadn't a clue. What do you do with a situation like this? Does it need vet care and how soon? What can you do while waiting for the vet? No stalls or dry land where she boards - it is all muck with all the rain we have had. Any ideas would be helpful.
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  • 11-30-2006 7:02 PM In reply to

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    This happened to my BO's horse. She cleaned out the hoof really well and doused it in Iodine. She let it dry thoroughly and then put a boot on him to keep out the muck. You could always wrap the hoof too. I'm not sure that she called the vet- her horse wasnt lame at all. It seemed like this has happened to her before. I would always call the vet just to see what they thought and see what other things you could do for the horse. Hopefully some other people have suggestions as well!


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  • 11-30-2006 7:05 PM In reply to

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    Thanks - that is a start. The vet's office is already closed and we didn't know if it needed an immediate call. She couldn't get hold of her BO plus my friend is the mom who sort of grudgingly has the horse for her daughter so she tries to not run up bills. Stick out tounge Good luck with horses, huh? Smile
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  • 11-30-2006 7:10 PM In reply to

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    If it is not bleeding then she shouldn't need to call the vet. He may be tender on that hoof for a while until it grows back in.
    If they are still unsure, the farrier is the one I'd call.
  • 11-30-2006 7:17 PM In reply to

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    If it is not bleeding then she shouldn't need to call the vet. He may be tender on that hoof for a while until it grows back in.
    If they are still unsure, the farrier is the one I'd call.



    I agree. I defintely wouldnot wrap it without the vets opinion, as she could very easily "wrap in" any infection, if there is any! Also - without seeing it's hard to say if this is the case for sure, but does your friend know that horses naturally "shed" their frog? I know I had a scare before I knew this when I checked my horse's feet during a regular cleaning, and his frog was "falling off"!! (Or so I thought!!) But he was just shedding the top layer. If the horse needs some assistance while the frog grows back, then the farrier is certainly the one to call - he or she can probably construct a shoe if necessary to ensure that no further problems develop as a result of the lack of frog.
  • 11-30-2006 8:11 PM In reply to

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    Yes, the frogs do shed, as do the soles.

    However, if the frog is really half missing, the horse could have thrush. Thrush can eat the frog completely away if left unattended.

    If it is thrush, the frog will have a really bad odor to it when you put your nose down there.



    Take a soft-bristled brush, and wash the frog area with betadyne and water. Pat dry.

    You will need to apply thrush medicine to the frog(s). I use Thrushbuster. It is very expensive but it also takes very little. It has purple gentian in it --- same thing as is used for humans with mouth thrush.

    If this horse has thrush like I'm thinking it does, believe me, if left unattended, the horse will go very lame, be in a lot of pain, and won't be able to be ridden until the frog(s) grow completely back.

    While thrush is usually associated with mud, wet conditions, wet stalls, some horses can get thrush under any circumstances. I have one. I've fought chronic thrush with him the entire 11 years I've owned him, no matter where we lived, including the low desert of Southern California where there's hardly ever any rain Frown

    If you're hesitant about the thrush theory, the horse is sore and lame, half his frog is missing, a vet needs to see him ASAP and give his owners instructions on how to recognize hoof diseases before they become chronic Blush

    Please keep us posted as to what you find out is wrong with the horse Cool
  • 11-30-2006 8:24 PM In reply to

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    gee-I hope that's not what it is-I hope it's just the frog shedding-but that doesn't generally cause much discomfort or at least I didn't notice mine in pain -you should call your farrier and over the phone they should be able to tell you if they need to come or if it's a vet thing or if it is normal shedding-good luck and let us know
  • 11-30-2006 11:42 PM In reply to

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    Thanks to all for your informative answers - I learned alot about this. The latest info is that this horse wore front shoes for the summer which have now been removed and then half the frog was missing today. They also think this foot is always sore on this horse and that paticular hoof never grows. They didn't tell me any of that til later. Anyway, they are moving to a barn closer to home tomorrow that has drier pastures and the horses are stalled every night. So all of that may help some.
    When I count my blessings, I count my horse twice!

  • 12-01-2006 1:31 PM In reply to

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    Dryer conditions should help, but being stalled will not. Best medicine for any hoof ailment is movement to keep the blood flowing well.
    If this hoof does not grow like the others and he has cronic trouble with it, I'd have a hoof specialist out to look at him.
  • 12-01-2006 1:53 PM In reply to

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    Yeah - not my horse, so.... I suggested the lady not buy this horse (too many problems) but she did anyway and her boarding conditions have not been great even though the BO is great, so there isn't much I can say. The daughter thinks she knows best about everything so I try to stay out of it.
    When I count my blessings, I count my horse twice!

  • 12-01-2006 1:54 PM In reply to

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    I know people like that. I just stand back and pray the horse has it in them to really tee them off enough that they will sell them to a better home.
  • 12-02-2006 7:03 PM In reply to

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    thank goodness horses are usually pretty hardy creatures so the "Know it all" humans don't harm them with the ignorance Angry
  • 12-06-2006 7:06 PM In reply to

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    This certainly is starting to sound a lot more "serious" as far as the health of the horse's foot goes. I'm not a vet - I usually have only enough knowledge to make me dangerous Grin, but I would be concerned that the frog is actually shrinking (?), and there could be something like navicular or some other chronic condition present that may well leave this horse lame and unuseable. Your friend really needs to call a vet and get that foot checked out.
  • 12-06-2006 8:01 PM In reply to

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    Horses do shed their frogs and outer surfaces of their hoofs.
    Sometimes over grown and the ground play a major part of helping the dead or infected skin to come off.
    Have them clean the hoof and use a product that kills thrush or any kind of infections.
    You can use Tide the washing powder to clean the bottom of the feet, but the main thing after cleaning the horse feet is, they must try to keep the foot dry and free of debris.
    They can disinfect the area and use cottom and duck tape to close off and seal the feet with the cottom and duck tape.
    Old Mac, Cavallo hoof boots offer protection from mud, muck.

    You can do a search on the internet for Cavallo-inc.com
    I hope this helps.

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