Seperation Anxiety

Last post 12-15-2011 1:37 PM by 48northfarm. 6 replies.
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  • 11-07-2011 1:25 PM

    Seperation Anxiety

    Hello, I am not new to horses but am by no means an expert.  It has been about 8 years since I was around horses all the time.  Back in May I was finally able to get two horses of my own, Pipe and Taylor, who are both quarter horses.  They lady that sold them to me had Pipe for about 5 years and Taylor for about 2 so they had been together quite some time when I got them.  She had 15 horses so I guess she never had to deal with the seperation anxiety issues, this is also new to me since I have always been around large groups of horses (worked on a horse farm). 

    These two are completely attached at the hip, they will not leave eachother for anything.  I have been spending most of my training time with Taylor who is the more independent of the two.  He will ride successfully for short periods of time, until Pipe begins screaming for him.  Pipe scares me that he will injur himself when I take Taylor away from him.  I can ride Pipe fine if Taylor is in the pasture with us, but I cannot stall Taylor and ride Pipe, he will buck the entire time. I have tried tying Pipe up in the pasture where he can see us while riding Taylor, but it does not work. I have to let him follow us the entire time which makes it very difficult to work with Taylor.

    Many people have suggested I get a third horse, but I hate to add another horse to the equation and make the problem worse.  Any advice? I am desperate.

  • 11-07-2011 2:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Seperation Anxiety

    Two of my mares, Juno and Havannah, have been joined at the hip since I brought Havannah to my new farm.  I've always been able to ride one or the other in my arena--about 200' from my pasture--and the one I'm riding is quiet with me, but the other one will either run the fence line--Havannah--or call some, which Juno does. However, if I try to ride one from the barn, even the one I'm riding gets anxious.

    Do you have to ride in your field, or do you have an arena? Can you ride from your barn? If you can ride from your barn, leave Pipe in the field and get on Taylor. Ride Taylor from the barn until you feel that he's right on the verge of getting anxious--as little as that may be--then turn him back. Don't let him get scared, but turn back right before he's becomes upset. You don't want to reward him for getting anxious--which you would do if you turned back WHEN he gets scared--but you want to reward him for remaining calm. That's why you turn back BEFORE he loses himself. Every time you ride Taylor from the barn, make it a bit longer. Hopefully, you can do several tries a day. Pipe will freak out, but he won't hurt himself. Go ahead and let him run the fence line. Try the same thing with you riding Pipe and leaving Taylor.

    If Taylor is calling, too, and won't leave the barn with you, you need to do more work with both of them to get them to recognize that you are their leader and protector, and one does not need the other one to be safe, just you. If you've never done any work like that before, you'll need a professional to help you. There's not enough room on this forum to cover how to become a leader for your horses.

    I rode Havannah from my barn last summer the way I just described, and eventually I was able to get her about a half-mile away. She never called for Juno but Juno called for her some, though not too much. Havannah DID balk at leaving, however, and I had to get pretty big with her to get her to move forward, but she got better and better the farther away we got. I still need to do more work with both Juno and Havannah to get them comfortable with leaving the other, but it will come. However, I couldn't do any of this if I didn't have both mares recognizing me as their leader and protector

    I hope you have some luck with this.
    Megan


    "The horse you get off is not the horse you got on. It is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible, the change is for the better."

    Anonymous




  • 11-07-2011 8:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Seperation Anxiety

    I do not have an arena. I have two seperate pastures, I try to ride in one of the pastures. I usually saddle them by my tack room which is near the barn and then walk them to the pasture.  I have tried mounting in the barn and walking them to pasture but it hasnt worked out very well the few times i tried. They dont stay in the barn much, I have their stalls open so they can come and go as they please which might be part of the problem.  I should probably go back to stalling them at night, they just get very restless. 

    I do need to work on my groundwork  more.   I am unable to devote too much time to them this month and next due to work demands so I am thinking of hiring a trainer to work with them.  They also have severe food obsession issues, which is a habit i am trying to break at the same time.  Thank you for the advice. I will start with groundwork and continue the short rides that increase in length over time.

  • 11-13-2011 5:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Seperation Anxiety

     This is a tough problem and you may be able to find some good articles online with a search.  Do you have the ability to get them a companion or two -- doesn't have to be a horse, can be a pair of donkeys/sheep/goats/llamas etc.  If you have the space and resources, it has been a helpful solution for some folks with similar issues.  

    If you can get help from a trainer experienced with this, that would be my recommendation.  Usually, the separation has to start in small increments and you gradually work them up to longer intervals.  



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  • 11-13-2011 6:34 PM In reply to

    Re: Seperation Anxiety

    I have the resources to get them a companion, however I have not been able to talk the husband into it lol  I told him we would try to work on the issue diligently for another month or two, with possible help from a trainer, and then discuss a companion further if we do not make any progress on our own. 

    Most of the articles that I have read mention increasing the amounts of time you keep them seperated over time, that is where we are going to start. - we have already been doing this some but not keeping them as seperated as they should be. 

    Thank you for responding to my post!

  • 12-15-2011 6:45 AM In reply to

    Re: Seperation Anxiety

    I don't see that adding a 3rd horse will solve the issue...this is actually a training issue. I would suggest searching as there are several articles that offer much more detailed advice than I could write here. I believe Clinton Anderson had a video segment on the subject a few years ago that was helpful to me. Basically, it comes down to a training issue. 
    David

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  • 12-15-2011 1:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Seperation Anxiety

    Yes, I agree with David: another companion will not make any difference in the separation anxiety. I have 2 donkeys and a Lusitano mare in the same field as Juno and Havannah, but Juno and Havannah still have problems when the other is away. But, even though Juno knows that a trailer will take her away from Havannah, she DOES load well and is fine where she arrives at the place to which she was trailered. I'm sure that has something to do with the fact that I'm with her, and she knows I will be there when she unloads. That has to do with the leader/protector role you play in the horse/human partnership, that I mentioned in my first reply.
    Megan


    "The horse you get off is not the horse you got on. It is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible, the change is for the better."

    Anonymous





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