move that hip!

Last post 01-09-2012 2:38 PM by mindygreen. 4 replies.
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  • 01-04-2012 2:45 PM

    move that hip!

    having problems with getting my horse to yeild his hind end! he is older 16-19yrs and a old cow horse so all he knows is forwards backwards and piviting on the rear. it is the same if i'm on the ground in the saddle, bitted or not, i ask for the yield, pushing by the back cinch, bring head towards the rear....he will go forwards, backwards or latly up....to get something i have to basically put his head over his back to get one step then he locks up.

    he does have stiff hips so i never ask for much bit one step with out a 45 min fight would be nice. he is a very forward horse, goes form stop to flat out at the lightest of pressure 

  • 01-04-2012 5:44 PM In reply to

    Re: move that hip!

    Try this:

    Begin in-hand, at the walk on a circle to the left, b/c on a circle you exert control on the hind legs when you ask the horse to yield his body. Face his left shoulder directly--90˚ off--with the lead in your left hand--your leading hand--and a dressage whip in the right, your driving hand. You will be asking the horse to move forward AND sideways. Slide you right--driving--hand down from the shoulder to where the leg would be if you were riding. Press lightly--as lightly as you want to ultimately use in the future--to ask him to move away from you. The moment he moves away--or even tries--relax and reward him. If he doesn't move away from the light pressure, use a bit stronger pressure. Poke him with a finger if you have to, but start with a LIGHT pressure before you get stronger.

    As he begins to yield from you, move with him. If you stay stationary, he will have to turn around on his forehand. You don't want that. Stay on the bending line of the circle, just let it get bigger as he moves away from you. Do this on both the left rein and the right rein.

    When he accepts your request to yield from you on the circle, try yielding across the arena. Begin at the walk on the left rein, on the long side. At the corner, begin making a circle to the left. After a quarter circle, maintain the bend with your leading--left--hand and use the driving--right--hand with pressure where the leg would be right behind the imaginary girth. Turn your left shoulder to the horse, which puts pressure on him to move sideways, and ask him to yield along the diagonal to the center of the opposing long side of the arena. Look in the direction of movement.

    As you approach the long side again, straighten him for several strides and then halt.

    Once he becomes used to yielding in-hand, you can follow the same steps under saddle. Remember, be patient and reward even the slightest try on his part.

    Let us know how it goes.

    ETA--I just re-read your post, and you said that he is stiff, and an older horse. Before you try what I suggested to get him to yield from your leg, have a vet look at him to see if his refusal to yield his hip is due to pain. It seems rather suspect that he won't yield his hip without bending his head to your knee, and that in itself is not good for a stiff horse. Call your vet.
    Megan


    "The horse you get off is not the horse you got on. It is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible, the change is for the better."

    Anonymous




  • 01-07-2012 9:41 AM In reply to

    Re: move that hip!

    mindygreen:
    bitted or not, i ask for the yield, pushing by the back cinch, bring head towards the rear....he will go forwards, backwards or latly up....to get something i have to basically put his head over his back to get one step then he locks up.

    Your first steps of teaching your horse to yield are good. Instead of increasing the head pressure, just hold it. No horse wants to stay in that position forever- some don't for even a few seconds! But if you just stick with it- the forwards, backwards, and the up- he should at one point move one step; that's when you let go of everything so that instant relief tells him he's doe the right thing. Just repeat that until it doesn't take 45min (idealy only a couple seconds Wink ). My only other reccomendation would be if you're really having a lot of trouble is to teach him to bend his head first: bring his head towards the rear without the pressure behind the cinch and release the instant he (his nose, or in a geldings case, often the lips!) touches your leg or the stirrup. This will just help him relax if he panicks when his head is bent around so that teaching him to yield and bend his head around wont double the excitement!

    I've helped teach several senior horses how to do this and I've learned you can 'teach an old dog new tricks', you've just got to put a little extra effort into it! Good luck MG!

    Seven Days Without A Horse Makes One Weak ~ Author Unknown

    I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me! ~ Phillipians 4:13
  • 01-07-2012 10:27 AM In reply to

    Re: move that hip!

    Like I said in my other post, if he's fighting it that much--45 mins?--he's telling you something. If he's started rearing, he's getting desperate. Listen to him. Have him looked at by a vet or bodyworker.
    Megan


    "The horse you get off is not the horse you got on. It is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible, the change is for the better."

    Anonymous




  • 01-09-2012 2:38 PM In reply to

    Re: move that hip!

    i've had him vetted and we do some body message and work to help with losing his joints. he has mild athrits in his hips but nothing that prvents him from moving. he is very straight and does not like to round out even in circles, he bends he head and drops it fast but the body does not follow


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