Yeah, I considered that. Thanks!

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I heard that the Queen of England's cart horses were Cleveland Bays.

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I believe that is correct. The Queen is a patron of the Cleveland Bay Society and has been very active in promoting the breed. Her stallion, Mulgrave Supreme, was practically a household name in England and his offspring were successful in many equestrian fields.

The Cleveland Bay is still listed as "critically endangered"

Check out the stats on this page -- http://www.bayhavenfarm.com/Cleveland_Bay_breed.htm

There are less Cleveland Bays than there are snow leopards or giant pandas!

Thanks for that website!

I had no idea they were rarer (don't think that's a word!) than the pandas and leopards!

Cleveland Bay's were originally bred as a classical carriage horse...so, if that is what you want, then a Cleveland Bay will be a good choice...

A guy at my work breeds Clevelands. He loves them. I believe he has an assortment of warmblood types and as far as I know, he jumps. I know he competes heavily but whether he does anything else besides jump, I'm not really certain. I just know his farm is pretty big up here but not in my realm of interest,lol!

Thanks! That's what I want, lol. Not so sure about my mom! "But mom, the queen has some, so that means we should at least get one, right?"

Might have to look into that. Maybe take a trip up there, eh?

He's in Chatsworth, ON and his first name is Brian, can't think of the last. I think he might possibly have a website. I know I saw some of his horses on the net but I think it was a sale site and not necessarily his farm . . .If you ever are interested, I can hunt him down, usually see him in the halls at work!

hmmm, googled and can't seem to find anything in ON. Either he doesn't have a site or he doesn't breed Clevelands. Maybe he only owns some . . Who knows!

Thanks for trying. We're still a ways away from actually getting a carriage horse, but I like to do my research! I'll keep that in mind though.