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How to get a sliding stop and spin?

Last post 10-27-2009 2:31 PM by madel_equestrian. 4 replies.
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  • 09-03-2009 12:03 PM

    How to get a sliding stop and spin?

    I recently bought a finished horse that is too good for me.  I was told (and believe) that a friend of mine had the mare doing sliding stops and spins.  I can get this mare to stop pretty quick sometimes, but I know I'm not cueing her right and she doesn't do it every time.  I was wondering how do you cue a reining horse to slide and spin?

    I've done a flying lead change on this mare so I know she is capable of some great stuff.

    Thanks for all answers,

    Romeos Klassic DJ

  • 09-03-2009 12:57 PM In reply to

    Re: How to get a sliding stop and spin?

    Is there anyone local you can take a few lessons from on your horse? I've been working on a sliding stop on my 4 year old, and every time we stop, I ask him to back, I also shift my weight back and sit down on him. He's really wanting to bury his butt when we stop. When you ask a horse to spin, I tend to set mine up, (especially with my green horse) I tip his nose in, and cue with the outside leg and push him around, as he starts to move off my leg, I will drop my hand as he starts around. Depending on how the horse was trained, she may respond difrerently - which is why it would be easier to get a trainer, or someone who knows how to ask - to show you what to do. Another thing to consider is the ground you're asking for a stop on. I would not school a sliding stop on anything but good arena footing and have boots on - and have one with baby sliders on - as you can really do some damage asking for a sliding stop on bad ground and with regular shoes. 

     

     

  • 09-03-2009 8:06 PM In reply to

    Re: How to get a sliding stop and spin?

    Ditto RR. Another important part of the sliding stop is to ask for it at the correct time. And that's when both hind feet are just leaving the ground and coming forward (the saddle will be rising to meet your butt). If you ask for the stop too soon or too late the horse will attempt to stop on the forehand. If the horse is a trained slider, sit deep and let the reins float so the horse's shoulders don't stiffen up. An occasional sliding stop in soft footing shouldn't bother the horse. But if you go on a bender repeatedly trying to get it right, impress your friends or just impress yourself then wraps/ boots and sliding shoes definitely should apply.

    Wraps or boots should be used for practicing spins, too. Bad timing can cause the horse to hit it's inside front leg and become reluctant to spin or spin well. If you ask for the crossover on the wrong leg the horse will cross under and have a pronounced hop and probably kick out the rear rather than pivot. Drive the horse forward a step or two and ask for the spin when the outside foot is still on the ground.

    Larry Trocha has a very good spin tutorial DVD and I think it's less than $10. ~FH


    "Abuse is when a human action or reaction is obviously accompanied by anger, rage or adrenaline. Proper correction and reprimand are done in silence with thoughtful intent. Your horse knows the difference." ~FloridaHorseman
  • 09-22-2009 10:22 AM In reply to

    Re: How to get a sliding stop and spin?

    Just wanted to say: is that him in your pic?  Oooooh, am I jealous!  Gorgeous.
    Ditto to everything said here.  Current wisdom is that there is only so many good stops in a horse, so don't waste them trying to do a long beautiful slide when you are just learning. Save those for the show ring. Lessons, yes, you need some lessons!
    Meanwhile, work on communication, ask for a stop by saying Whoa! in a clear firm voice first and dropping your heels and your weight into the seat at the same time.  No rein. Try it a walk, try it at a trot until you get a consistent result.  If he does not stop on the voice weight cues, pick up your rein, stop him and back him a few steps, then try again.  Everyone's timing and cues are slightly different so he has to learn yours. Get some good reining videos and study the rider's position when they ask for a stop.  Be sure they are good riders who get a stop with the horse in a rounded position with his front legs walking through the stop, no heads in the air or propped front legs!
    Along with what FH said, the horse also has to be straight and increasing in speed when you ask for the stop in order to get a good long one.  But you aren't ready for that yet!  Work on correctness first, add speed later when you have a trainer.
    Same with the spin.  Work on slow correct spins before you speed him up.  Again, study some videos.  Most of us beginners pull back when we start to spin resulting in the front leg reaching behind to spin which will cause the horse to clip himself and get tangled up.  It is a forward movement into the spin so he can reach across with his front leg to pull himself around.  Try walking him in a small circle, making it smaller and smaller until you ask for a spin with outside leg at the girth and outside rein. Make sure your inside leg is OFF so he has room to move his shoulders over. Center your rein after he starts to spin but keep the leg on, most riders bump with the leg, not steady pressure.Your goal is planted back foot, a forward movement into the spin and a good clean stop.  You can see if he planted his back foot because you will have a nice drilled hole in the dirt.  
    Enough for now, but I do believe if you start correctly and slow you will be able to add the speed later, it is very hard to add correctness if you are "pedal to the metal" from the beginning.  
    Have fun and let us know how you are doing! 
      


    AM Skye Raider

  • 10-27-2009 2:31 PM In reply to

    Re: How to get a sliding stop and spin?

     ok first off... everyone here's advice is great, BUT PLEASE!! If you do not have experience with riding a reining horse go get lessons with a trainer!  it is so easy to mess up a well trained horse, and since you have one take advantage of it!  She will be able to teach you some wonderful things under a trainers eye!  Teaching a horse to slide stop, spin, etc. takes a lot of knowledge and "feel"  it is truly a form of art!  Congratulations on your great horse and good luck!


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