Harsh bunny hop stop

Last post 04-22-2011 5:20 PM by luneducheval. 3 replies.
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  • 04-19-2011 11:17 AM

    Harsh bunny hop stop

    Hi there - I have an amazing 6 year old paso fino.  Very soft in the mouth - a dream ride.

     Here is the problem lol  We love to go gallop in the field.  When I cue that we will be slowing down.... he hits the breaks and bunny hop stops on a dime.  I cannot sit this.  I type this today with a cast on!  lol  I have tried not cueing with reins at all and just "sitting like a bag of potatoes" but he goes from 90 to zero in a second! 

     I love going all out on him and you can see he enjoys it too.  When we are in the forest in the trails we are fine, even at a gallop.  But in open areas he sets he breaks.  If we were reiners and he had sliders on..... well, we would still be sliding.

     Any suggestions?

  • 04-19-2011 12:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Harsh bunny hop stop

    Hokey Smoke, Bullwinkle! A reining Paso!

    Well, short of suggesting you don't gallop him in open country, let's treat him like a reiner and focus on WHEN you ask him for a stop rather than how. The bunny hop effect usually comes from a horse that is trying to stop on the forehand. And that's a timing issue. He's received the stop cue when his hind feet are still on the ground or just about to make contact with it. That makes it impossible for him to round his back and get his hindquarters underneath himself. So he tries to plant those front feet and can't handle all the impulsion still coming from behind. Thus, he gets vertical with the stop.

    Try asking for the stop as the hind feet are coming up and forward. That gives him a chance to get under himself in preparation for a smoother stop. To do that you'll need to initiate the stop cue as the saddle cantle is coming forward to slap your butt. Most riders ask for the stop when the saddle is down low because it feels like a more secure seat. But if the saddle is down low your horse's hind feet are in contact with the ground. And in his immediate attempt to comply the weight and momentum goes down on the front... hard! And he'll go vertical with the momentum to keep from blowing over onto his head or over reaching with the hind feet and hitting his own front legs.

    Get thyself and thy reining Paso to an arena, transition from the trot to a canter or gallop and IMMEDIATELY, within a stride or two, ask for a stop... while the saddle is rising to meet you... before he builds up too much impulsion. This is just an exercise for you to practice your timing. When you get it right the bunny hopping should go away or be at a minimum. As your timing for the stop cue gets better you can let him build up a few more strides before asking for the stop. If nothing else, this will also cause the horse to rate his own speed and be a little more collected, anticipating that stop cue at any time.

    After you get the stop cue timing worked out, get him shod in sliders and hit the show circuit. I think people will pay money to witness a reining Paso. ~FH
  • 04-19-2011 1:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Harsh bunny hop stop

    Thank you so much.... great advice!  I have always known it was my fault not his!

     I just got a smaller cast on today (broken wrist from our last... hault lol).... hopefully by the weekend Cimarron and I will be out for a trek.  I will have to post some video.... my paso is not just a reiner, but a jumper, a dressage pony who blows through pole bending like a champ!  lol

     I know we all think "ours" are the best but I would love to take some video and post it!  Just let me heal a little first.  We are not the best at everythng we do... but we do everything (or at least have a blast trying lol).  I got Cim a few years ago when he was 3 and I have always ridden Cim as a horse, not a breed.

     I rode english hunter/jumper as a kid and dabbled in dressage.   Recently I have spent some time on my sisters cutting horses (holy $#@!)  in BC - she competes in team penning.  I ride in a reining saddle when I am on her ranch.  I used to use a casa dosa saddle on Cimarron and for the last couple months I have chosen just to use a bareback pad (the gaited gait is a dream).   I have tried a dressage saddle on him but perhaps I should pull out my western from my old QH to practice these stops.

    Again - thanks so much.  Looking forward to my homework!

     

    Cheers

  • 04-22-2011 5:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Harsh bunny hop stop

    Following FH's advice is always good, but I would add one thing to it, (I used to have a bunny hopper too)  Man did it hurt when she stopped.  I could always count on her to stop fully, but always on the front end, and I know I wasn't ALWAYS cuing on the wrong stride...

    anyway, starting at the walk, when you whoa, immediately ask for a few steps back.  When the horse anticipates that he will need to be going back, he will start getting his hind end under him.  Practice at a walk, and work up to making the back steps quickly.  Let him know that you REALLY want him to back up....  When he seems comfortable and has his hind end under him go up to a trot (or gait, you know) and then when that stop is comfortable, up to a canter/gallop.  In addition to cuing as the hind legs come up off the ground, this should help, but I will tell you also that I am not a reining person, so just something to play with. :)

    good luck with that too...

    Janice

    Bread may feed my body, but my horse feeds my soul.

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